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Image of Our Satellite-Choked Night Skies

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safog • 13 minutes ago

It is a bit ridiculous these days and it's only going to get worse with basically every major country needing to do a version of this for defence purposes.

Go out tonight and just look at the sky for 5 mins and I'll guarantee you'll see a couple of satellites flying past.

As with a lot of other technologies, the genie is out of the bottle and I don't think we're putting him back there again, this is the future.

cperciva • 34 minutes ago

The hard part came next. Larsen spent about 45 hours layering the individual photos – each of which contained about 25 satellites – over one another, using Adobe Photoshop. Much of the time was spent painstakingly erasing stars, to reveal the satellites.

This is less an "image of our satellite-choked night skies" and more "a completely mendacious image produced using Photoshop".

happytoexplain • 22 minutes ago

You are being uncharitable. There is nothing misleading about this, or any other, nightsky timeseries image. It claims to show the paths of satellites over 2 hours, and that's what it does. You have to edit things like this to reveal the signal and keep relatively constant elements from overwhelming the result. Astronomers do this exact same thing (erasing things that obscure the subject over time).

jebarker • 14 minutes ago

I have no problem with the image and it illustrates a real phenomena. There is something slightly misleading about it though: if you point a camera in the same direction for 2 hours, take many images and then layer the images you wouldn't have a static star background like is shown here. You'd only get that star background if you used a star tracker and kept pointing at the same place in the night sky but then the foreground would be changing.

bix6 • 24 minutes ago

The point of the image is to make a point. Art is provocative. Our skies are choked as anyone who makes Astro images will tell you.

hparadiz • 21 minutes ago

I really like the photo and what it represents. We're growing as a civilization and I think that's beautiful.

ryandvm • 20 minutes ago

I don't understand. Are you laboring under the impression that the artist is trying to convince people that this is what the night sky looks like at any given moment? What even are you upset about?

Kevin_Flynn • 33 minutes ago

It did say he was a photographer, not an astronomer.

Surely an astronomer would have software for this that would produce a more accurate picture.

misnome • 23 minutes ago

Almost any astronomy processing software does this for free, because when you stack a whole load of images it rejects outlier pixels (e.g. a trail present on only one image out of hundreds).

It then usually gives you an image of both the combined success, and an image of just those pixels that were rejected. So, this.

cperciva • 31 minutes ago

An astronomer would presumably not erase the stars.

misnome • 25 minutes ago

Actually, this is pretty common for non-scientific astrophotography! Erase Stars -> Edit background and stars colour, contrast etc separately -> Recombine!

jpardoe • 26 minutes ago

Has he not heard of AI?

38295gksnf9588 • 23 minutes ago

It’s called art.

jefftk • 15 minutes ago

A lot of people are going to look at that manually edited image, think it's a traditional long-exposure photo, and conclude that satellites are much more of a problem for astronomy than they really are.

anonymous_sorry • 21 minutes ago

It looks like low earth orbit is a limited resource. Is it?

If so, do Starlink and others pay rent? Should they (to ensure efficient use of the resource)?

hagbard_c • 14 minutes ago

To whom would they pay 'rent'? What would be done with the money?

Don't go there, it leads to nothing but more waste, abuse and corruption. If it becomes necessary there can be some form of arbitrage in how LEO is used, we're not there yet though. Maybe something like the auctions for bandwidth for mobile operators but again, where does the money go? If institutionalised it will just turn into another slush fund for whatever interests, many of them corrupt or nonsensical, to drain.

tetraodonpuffer • 20 minutes ago

it seems fairly evenly distributed besides the aggregation in the middle, what orbit would that be? why are there so many satellites there?

Kevin_Flynn • 37 minutes ago

Looks like some of the first 8-bit Moiré pattern demos.

Makes perfect sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern