I don't see how anyone can be using Claude with prices like this, it's pretty incredible what the OpenAI team is doing, w.r.t model quality and pricing.
Prices per 1M tokens Claude Opus 5.5 Claude Opus 5
Cache reads $0.20 $0.50
Input tokens $4 $5
Output tokens $20 $25
Cache writes $5 $6.25
Input
Output
Price reduction
GPT‑6 Sol vs. GPT‑5.6 Sol
$4 → $2
$20 → $10
50% cheaper
GPT‑6 Luna vs. GPT‑5.6 Luna
$0.20 → $0.10
$1.20 → $0.50
50% cheaper
Thirteen comments in six minutes, primarily one liners about how "insane" and "very nice" the new prices are, and how "Claude can't compete"? Within one hour of the Opus 5.5 launch announcement?
Goodbye Hacker News--it has been a good run.
Is this comment about astroturfing or a decline in comment quality? To be honest, I was one of those early commenters, and I was just genuinely shocked at the price drop. I am also excited to try Opus 5.5!
Fundamentally I feel like coders just doesn't even need to be that smart anymore given AI assistance. This place ten years ago used to be filled with some of the most interesting comments/takes around for that reason.
Welcome to the new internet. It was fun whilst it lasted. Next evolution will likely be closed, invite only forums.
Eternal September 2, I suppose.
In the other hand the pricies dropped by a big margin
bots everywhere
And comments complaining about other comments too
Including this one, yes.
But the reason people say "Claude can't compete" is because Claude Opus has been going downhill since 4.7, and many have found Opus 5 intolerable. Fable is much better, but also much more expensive than OpenAI's offerings.
And comments complaining about how only big businesses get benefitted too
and comments complaining about other comments complaining too
Pretty sure this is the reason HN exists ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ lol
I've been working with agents all year, but 5.6 Sol was some sort of sweet spot for me. Something about how it communicated verbally and its engineering instincts just clicked for me, and I was able to somehow predict it and jam with it. Like a colleague you click with. It's the first model I've gotten attached to. I'm concerned that whatever model supercedes it, while technically better, just won't feel quite as natural to work with. And this makes me feel very professionally vulnerable to the labs. I miss the days when my crucial tooling came from companies as reliable and predictable as, say, Jetbrains.
The only two benchmarks shared between the Opus 5.5 and Sol 6 launch seem to be frontier code and automation bench, looks like Sol wins on automation bench (same performance for half the cost) and Opus 5.5 wins on frontier code (2-5% better scores across the board for same cost)
Cutting prices by 50% as compared to 5.6 prices is exciting. GPT-6 Luna at $0.10/Mio input tokens and $0.50/Mio output is positively insane.
EDIT: this doesn't say anything about availability on either Azure or AWS. I'm assuming it will show up later, but it would be interesting if it didn't.
It's asking a lot to trust they can or will maintain this new pricing. In any case it's exciting to think this might lead to further price cuts in the highly competent and competitive Chinese clones. I'm still using ChatGPT for interactive queries, but at this point pretty much only because of its familiar UI
Curious why you think it's unsustainable?
I'm glad both labs noticed and are trying to improve the models communication styles, they were getting closer and closer to meaningless gibberish.
Luna really is "intelligence to cheap to meter" by now
Opus 5.5 seems better? Can someone attach both scores
Not the direct competitor to Opus 5.5, cuz 6 Sol is 50% cheaper.
Same price on Cache Reads 0.2/M So won't be 50 percent cheaper, more like 25% cheaper assuming half cost is cache read.
No terra it seems? Luna 5.6 is great for token churning so it will be exciting to try the new one.
Perhaps people realized that Luna Max is ~ Terra?
Not only is GPT-6 Luna better, it's 50% cheaper. It was already practically free on a pro plan.
What a day! I couldn't really use the last Luna for much (wasn't smart enough) or Astra (too expensive). So this release is really exciting. I can probably use Sol 6 as much as I want in the week, which as great.
It looks like the optimal pattern is to have Astra as the orchestrator and Sol as the implementer. Same as with Fable and Opus.
I've found Astra to be horrible at making orchestration decisions. I will be trying to use Sol for both. Fable is very good at it though. Worst part of my week is when I hit my Fable usage limit and have to switch to Astra.
so opus 5.5 is smarter and cheaper than fable, and sol 6 is a little dumber and WAY cheaper than astra? is that right?
Sol 6 is also dumber than Sol 5.6 on some tasks (DeepSWE)
Third-party inference providers will have a hard time to beat Luna in pricing with comparable open models.
6 Sol Performs worse than 5.6 Sol at DeepSwe?
Wierd!!
Very nice in cost/1mtok. Looks like more work is being done for efficient everyday helper models as time goes on.
There's no way this wasn't meant to coincide with Anthropic's release today.
They hinted this release last week for tuesday already, so if anything it would be Anthropic that tried to make this happen. But I doubt it.
Looking at their own charts it seems like it's only small incremental improvement over 5.6 Sol, but with a massive cost reduction. And the better writing/communication style that Astra had.
Which... fine, I'll take that.
Love the price reductions across major players
Because Qwen4 has been announced!
Pricing is insane, can have Luna going after a goal for 10 days and not run into maxing out the limits.
bro, thats the competition, waiting for gemini 3.9 flash lol
Polymarket thinks Gemini 4 comes out before October 31.
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Also, batch processing prices are still 50% off, which put GPT-6 Sol and GPT-6 Luna at $5 and $0.25 for output.
https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/pricing?latest-pricin...
>> GPT‑6 Sol vs. GPT‑5.6 Sol
>> $4 → $2
>> $20 → $10
Do you mean 100% more expensive? GPT 6 is 100% more expensive than 5.6 per your post.
GPT would charge more if they could. Both companies need way way more revenue. GPT simply made a calculation that they can earn more money by charging less than their competitors.
I could already run Sol High on 3 concurrent side projects 24/7 and not run out of quota.
This is great, but practically, I'm not going to start working on more side projects.
Perhaps in another 6-12 months I'll be fine to drop down to $20/m instead of $200.
Opus 5.5 is incredible so far, its going to get used. Fable is much better than Astra for me in practice, and Sol is not marketed as better.
Its a great release, I will use both heavily.
For API usage, sure. But plenty of people have subscriptions where these differences effectively don’t matter.
The last time I gave GPT a shot, it ate all my tokens and got nothing meaningful done.
A vs B
Should be B vs A correct?
Else it's confusing
These don’t necessarily reflect actual costs, OpenAI is not profitable and nowhere near. They’ve lost their market lead and Sam may feel they need to get it back with any means necessary.