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ChrisMarshallNY14 minutes ago

One convenient fiction that wealthy people (in the US) tell themselves, is that poor people are "lazy"; and that's why they're poor.

I know lots of folks without a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out, and not one single one, is "lazy." In fact, a few have more than one (difficult) job.

I am old enough to see a few of them getting into the back nine, with no cushion.

I'm extremely grateful for what I have.

delichon46 minutes ago

A friend was a property manager in Sacramento. His biggest headache was replacing the electrical equipment thieves would demolish to get to the copper, that currently pays ~$5/lb. If people are really working this hard for steel at $0.04/lb, then transformers and air conditioners will have to be installed in vaults.

TacticalCoder33 minutes ago

> His biggest headache was replacing the electrical equipment thieves would demolish to get to the copper

It's one of the reason trains get stuck in Europe: thieves stealing copper cables. They've been found to steal, too, heavy road grate if they were of any value: which created actual serious accidents (where a car's tire falls into the hole).

Regarding the electrical cables for trains, one solution is, slowly , replace them with cables with basically the same properties but 1/10th the copper.

Other funky solutions have been implemented: chemical sprays with a composition that is watermark and that cannot easily be removed. So when caught the thieves cannot deny because for x weeks the watermark stays, invisible and harmless, on their skin.

One question of course is: what does society think we should do with thieves who create road accidents and who render trains inoperable?

kogasa240p43 minutes ago

> ~$5/lb

Copper sells over $6 per pound these days: https://www.kitco.com/price/base-metals/copper

Aurornis13 minutes ago

The scrap price is what you get for bringing scrap copper to a recycler.

Not an expert, but I assume $5/lb is the peak value for dropping off nearly perfect condition copper. Not sure how much they’re actually getting for stripped copper wire.

Computer017 minutes ago

I’d say $6 is == ~$5

mikeaskew446 minutes ago

We have them in Chicago, too. Call streets and san when you got something too big to fit in the can? Nah.

Also nearly got a job in Pittsburgh this summer…

oulipo53 minutes ago

Not sure why of all people, Moxie Marlinspike would stay on this cesspool of a network that is X

delish45 minutes ago

I'm open to correction on which rule to cite, or whether to cite a rule:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Picking:

> Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

I understand the partisan juxtaposition of "X" and Moxie Marlinspike, and the partisan appeal of commenting on it, but to me it is a tangential annoyance.

jjtheblunt30 minutes ago

I'm curious what cesspool you mean, because i can see cutting edge true hardcore science publication announcements on X better than elsewhere.

i ask because i evidently have tuned my account parameters somehow way the heck better than you experience.

I _do_ still see what look like rage-bait nonsense that people post for clicks, totally unrelated to medicine or biology, so i block or mute that nonsense.

phoronixrly51 minutes ago

Why do you think Moxie Marlinspike is not the type of person that would stay on this cesspool of a network that is X? From what I've seen I'd have been very surprised to see him anywhere else.

It is ironic that the founder of maybe the most popular privacy-conscious IM app is actively contributing to his and his followers' data being harvested on X though.

moralestapia42 minutes ago

Not sure what image you have of him. But a cesspool is where he belongs, imo.

slopinthebag60 minutes ago

I fear FIFTEEN CENTS A POUND is going to become a new vocal stim I will spam 50 times a day.