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Z80–The 1970s Microprocessor Still Alive

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getfacl1 hour ago

Tom Jennings, the creator of fidenet, is producing a nice modern Z80 computer[0]

0. https://www.ebay.ie/itm/206496219323

varjag1 hour ago

(emulated)

librasteve38 minutes ago

interesting to be reminded that an 8080 (8 bit datapath) took 4,800 transistors

an Apple M5 Max is 100,000,000,000 transistors (ok it’s 18 CPU + 40 GPU cores) by comparison so 17 million 8080 equivalents

dofm20 minutes ago

The ARM 1 only had 25,000 or so.

dosisking23 minutes ago

This is understandable, considering that the M5 is the Ultimate Computer, powered by Dr. Richard Daystrom's very own engrams

flohofwoe28 minutes ago

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meekins2 hours ago

Due to its simplicity it's a fun little processor to program. Hacking on some assembly on a ZX spectrum emulator is a nice way to stay sane in this high abstraction LLM age.

flohofwoe1 hour ago

"Simple" is really not a word I would associate with the Z80 ;)

The ISA is quite messy because of the backward compatibility requirement with the Intel 8080 (e.g. the Z80 had to fill undocumented gaps in the 8080 opcode encoding map with new instructions, four of which were prefix instructions to unlock additional instruction 'subsets' (DD/FD for replacing instructions involving the HL register pair with indexed addressing modes via the IX/IY registers, and ED/CB prefixes for adding two entirely new opcode blocks).

If the Zilog engineers would have been free to design their own ISA I'm sure they would have been able to come up with a much more elegant design.

Also the Z80 had more than twice as many transistors as the 6502 (8500 for the Z80 vs 3500 for 6502).

I still prefer programming the Z80 over the 6502 though :)

dosisking19 minutes ago

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asdefghyk3 hours ago

A paragrap from the linked articale

Z80 was the choice of a microprocessor for then home computers such as Radio Shack TRS-80, SORD M23P, M5, Sinclair ZX81, ZX Spectrum, KayPro II, and many other manufacturers.3 It was capable of running the CP/M operating system in most Z80-based PCs. Z80 had a reasonable share in the PC market until Intel revealed its 16-bit microprocessor in the mid-1980s. Z80 was very popular as a microprocessor not only in PC applications, but also in industrial embedded applications, and some of the big manufacturers have Z80 core inside their ASIC chips still today or use enhanced versions of Z80 in consumer electronic devices.4–7 Zilog still manufactures ez80, an enhanced version of the original Z80, which is still being used by Texas Instruments in its TI-84 and TI-84 Plus calculators.7 It is among the few silicon chips that made a remarkable impact on the electronic device industry.8 To this day, Zilog produces a range of Z80-based microprocessors and intelligent peripheral controllers, and they are available from reputed electronics component suppliers.2,9,10 This microprocessor is one of the longest living microprocessors of all time.

smackeyacky2 hours ago

Slop from the article

julienmartlet1 hour ago

Ironically (and sadly) the Z80 was discontinued not very long after this piece was published.

grishka1 hour ago

I'm sure clones are still being made.