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A 3rd World Embedded Engineer Responds to "RISC-V They Should Have Known Better"

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HawtAds2 hours ago

I love the article, it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes. However there's just one issue:

> The students I want to teach are in the same position, and so are the ones in Nigeria and Bangladesh

It does not take $60 to ship small sub $1 chips from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh. These two countries are all on global trade routes (both supply and demand) and the expensive last mile delivery costs are fairly low there too.

TruffleLabs1 hour ago

Is this comment on shipping costs from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh based on your experience? If there is a less expensive way then share the approach to help others :)

em-bee1 hour ago

i don't know how trustworthy rateships.com is, but according to them shipping costs to nigeria and trinidad are similar. and as for the last mile, the cost probably goes up because local shipping is rather unsafe (higher rate of theft of packages).

alephnerd1 hour ago

> it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes...

HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH and CEE.

Presumed RISC-V hate is a perfect example of that - the UCs and CSUs have been using RISC-V in their curriculum since the 2010s becuase Patterson is faculty at Cal and most CompArch courses in both systems have been using RISC-V as a result because 61a/b/c are often used as the benchmark curricula wise. An entire generation of Californian computer engineers have been RISC-V fluent as a result.

The hivemind assumption that HN's user base is "venture capital", "tech bro", "founders", and "Silicon Valley" is around 5 years out of date.

Anecdotally, the vast majority of younger (below 30) founders, engineers, VCs, and builders in the Bay have either not heard of HN or quit it within weeks due to toxicity.

greyb1 hour ago

>HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH.

I honestly do not get this at all. HN remains very US-centric to me, and apart from some takes on tech rights, does not really remind me of my experience in DACH.

alephnerd1 hour ago

> I honestly do not get this at all. HN remains very US-centric to me, and apart from some takes on tech rights, does not really remind me of my experience in DACH.

The majority of HN's usership, posting, and comment activity occurs during peak EU work hours (3am-9am), stylistic patterns that are common for German-native speakers are increasingly prominent, and the fact that IRL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene are entirely different from those on HN shows a massive divergence in userbase.

I'd recommend deep diving in the HN scrape dataset on HuggingFace [0]. The site has diverged heavily compared to 2018 or 2012.

[0] - https://huggingface.co/datasets/open-index/hacker-news

orangeboats1 hour ago

Non-American here... what is DACH?

greyb1 hour ago

It is Germany, Austria, Switzerland.

orangeboats1 hour ago

Thanks! I must admit this is the first time I have heard of the acronym.

slater1 hour ago

Germany, Austria, Switzerland (D, A, CH)

Sha1rholder1 hour ago

Nice read!

Though it feels a bit strange that "I have exceeded the allowed number of requests. (500 times)" when I first clicked the article and I'm pretty sure I don't share the ip of my self-hosted VPN with anyone.

kqr21 hour ago

Original HN discussion referenced:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49298035

avmich1 hour ago

To me it feels like the difference in positions is "this could be made better" vs. "but this is already so much better than before". Both are right.

Maybe I'm missing something important so far...

IshKebab55 minutes ago

Yeah the complaints in the original article are valid, but it's like complaints about Android or iOS. There are plenty of valid complaints against either, but neither is strictly better than the other.

moomin2 hours ago

Absolutely hugged to death.

urbnspacecowboy2 hours ago
epolanski1 hour ago

The author of the article just got a fan.

Some serious stuff he builds on top of those chips.