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Qatar helium shutdown puts chip supply chain on a two-week clock

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lpcvoid50 minutes ago

Great timing that the US recently sold its strategic helium supply.

desireco421 minute ago

yeah that was completely crazy... never understood why they would do something like that

emsign5 minutes ago

Iran will make AI go pop.

heyitsmedotjayb2 minutes ago

inshallah

trollbridge59 minutes ago

Aren’t there huge stockpiles of helium in the US? I can buy party sized tanks at Target or big tanks at the usual places like welding supply places.

emsign3 minutes ago

Balloon gas is ~20% oxygen, so your kids don't go unconscious while doing the funny voices.

fluidcruft23 minutes ago

A lot of the balloon use has switched to nitrogen (helium became much, much more expensive after the strategic helium reserve was sold off)

bilsbie14 minutes ago

Is lifting gas? That’s pretty cool.

cpncrunch5 minutes ago

No.

vasco46 minutes ago

Messer Completes Acquisition of Federal Helium System from BLM https://www.messer-us.com/press-releases/messer-completes-ac...

bix622 minutes ago

Why did we sell it instead of lease? This seems like something that should be in public hands.

cagenut9 minutes ago

sorry thats too far left wing an opinion in america today

owebmaster44 minutes ago

Foi de vasco (died).

spiderfarmer14 minutes ago

Lindsay Graham has an easy solution to this unnecessary conflict: send your sons and daughters.

This whole administration is such a fiasco.

expedition321 hour ago

My energy contract expires in June. I am feeling the doom clock- just how much can America and their Israeli masters fuck up?

mvdwoord58 minutes ago

Can not see them fuck it up more than my own government spending millions to pour concrete into our own excellent natural gas wells (while selling whatever did come out under market price to other countries), and our neighbors on the east celebrating while they blow up nuclear power plants. At least the US and Israel have a chance of improving their position in the geopolitical landscape. We are just slowly then swiftly committing suicide.

surgical_fire54 minutes ago

Are you complaining about the Groningen gas wells?

I thought that they were being decommissioned due to seismic risks?

sigio52 minutes ago

Yeah, but even the local (groningen) residents think it's a bad idea to not keep some resources available for emergency situations (they also would like to heat their houses in winter) like when other sources are cut off.

surgical_fire49 minutes ago

Is it even possible? My understanding is that the whole region is connected to those gas wells. There's so much you can take before the underground is hollow.

They may not have a house to heat if tremors get too bad.

mvdwoord47 minutes ago

haha yes, the grand seismic risks (economic risk in single digit percentages of the profits available) but not talking about not using them, they are actively and very costly going to fill them with concrete to ensure in the future (even in whatever extreme scenario) they cannot be used again. On top of the fact that we suckered ourselves into long term agreements which led to having to sell our own gas, far below market price to other countries. Full blown retardedness, and the moral high ground was theirs.

And our German neighbors, I can still see them laughing at the Orange Man Bad... Boo hoo... what a shitshow.

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surgical_fire41 minutes ago
pohl1 hour ago

For the US, thus far, we keep discovering that we have yet to hit bottom — so probably more.

th23i432409991 hour ago

Another bubble. Another war. Great.

varispeed1 hour ago

So more old rich suited men can bang more escorts. The vanity of humanity.

api49 minutes ago

That's one of the most disappointing things to me. These people have such resources and the limit of their vision is: bang young girls, accumulate bling, push divisive hateful politics, start wars.

That's it. That's the best they can do.

Even nominally selfish far-sighted things like genuinely funding a deep research program for life extension is not really something they're into. I mean some of them are "into" it in that they talk about it and occasionally toss money at things but they're not interested in funding or being involved in the kind of multi-year high-focus moonshot program it would actually take to deliver. The problem is that's hard and it takes a long time when banging girls and winning power games is instant dopamine.

It makes me keep thinking of paperclip maximizers. It's like we are paperclip maximizers, only our paperclips are sex and dopamine hits from winning power games. A paperclip maximizer with such resources would squander it all on paperclips, and we squander it all on these goal functions built in by evolution. Are we actually intelligent or just clever animals? We can seek what we want, but we don't think much about what we want to want.

coldpie27 minutes ago

I think about how we could've paid for two brand new, gigawatt-scale nuclear power plants for the same amount of money as Elon Musk flushed down the toilet to try to shut down a website he didn't like. Extreme wealth is a mental illness, and wealth caps are healthcare.

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bombcar23 minutes ago
Forgeties7923 minutes ago

At this point I wish he had shut it down. Instead he turned into a mouthpiece for the right and duped his followers into thinking he’s “liberated” the site and made it into some bastion of free speech.

dmix22 minutes ago

People will always keep looking to politicians to make the world better despite their terrible track record.

2OEH8eoCRo027 minutes ago

I think we are somewhere in between. Most of us know what we should be doing but actually doing it is hard!

As an aside this might indicative of today's defective rich. Carnegie built over 2,500 libraries for example.

lordgroff15 minutes ago

It's incredibly distressing, but I think the issue here lies with 'we'. Those at the very top are a very, shall we say, unique group. Those who seek power at such a level are not like the rest of us. There's established research showing that psychopathic and sociopathic traits are vastly more common among the "CEO class". It's not that wealth and power _makes_ them so, it's that relatively few are willing to be completely amoral or malicious in order to obtain as much power as possible. I believe that this effect is greatly magnified at the very top.

It's a tale as old as Plato: those most likely to WANT to rule are exactly the 'candidates' who absolutely should not.

fhdkweig28 minutes ago

> These people have such resources and the limit of their vision is: bang young girls, accumulate bling, push divisive hateful politics, start wars.

I really don't like how Bill Gates and Microsoft made their money, but at least he has realized that in his twilight years to try to make amends via humanitarian work. Buying the stairway to heaven.

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dv_dt24 minutes ago
ReptileMan1 hour ago

Do you remember this quote from wheel of time?

"Let the lord of chaos rule" ...

coreyh1444447 minutes ago

Remember all the e/acc people telling us to vote for Trump? Some mea-culpas are in order.

lpcvoid45 minutes ago

The kind of people who voted for trump would never admit they made a mistake. They double down on stupidity instead.

fhdkweig37 minutes ago

Could you define the acronym "e/acc"? DDG seems to think it means: "What Does E/Acc Stand For, And What Does It Mean? E/acc stands for the phrase effective accelerationism, and it basically indicates one's personal ideological belief that artificial intelligence will one day become an all-powerful being that can fix the vast majority of humanity's problems."

I don't think I have ever heard a MAGA talk about AI.

spiderfarmer9 minutes ago

The MAGA Web3 bros have all switched to the Clawdbot hypetrain, still flogging courses and slop.

breppp41 minutes ago

Qatar is probably intentionally shutting down production of gas and oil in order to pressure the US to stop, independently of Iranian attacks.

In that respect they may be bombed by Iran but they have the same interests

fabian2k34 minutes ago

Where are they supposed to put all that gas and oil if they can't transport it? I don't think they have much choice here.

And as far as I understand, helium is a byproduct of the extraction, so they can't choose to keep only the helium.

breppp20 minutes ago

However Qatar stopped production before the straits were officially closed and their stated reason is "due to military attacks", also Russian or Chinese ships can pass

fabian2k17 minutes ago

There is no such thing as "officially closed". The moment people start shooting there, driving a ship across becomes dangerous. This was an absolutely predictable consequence of the attacks on Iran, you didn't need to wait until several tankers were burning to know these attacks were likely to happen and the strait would become essentially too risky to pass.

breppp6 minutes ago

Back then there were only two ships attacked in the straits, and one was an Iranian shadow fleet ship. I am not sure that is "closing the straits" in any shape or form

noelsusman24 minutes ago

Shutting down production doesn't pressure the US at all since the oil and gas can't go anywhere anyway. They're shutting it down because they have to, there's nowhere to put the oil.