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UNIX99, a UNIX-like OS for the TI-99/4A

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SoftTalker2 hours ago

@UsagiElectric on YouTube has a series of videos on building a homebrew around the TMS9900 processor. Would be cool if a unix-like OS could be used on something like that, though sounds like this project is specifically targeting the TI-99/4A system.

The TI-99/4A was the first computer I owned as a teenager. I had used TRS-80s and Apple ][ at school. I eventually bought the expansion box and a couple of accessory cards (floppy disk drive, memory and RS232). It all went in the e-waste dumpster about 20 years ago during a move.

davepeck43 minutes ago

My parents bought one for the house when I was in elementary school. I still remember the sound of the Speech Synthesizer, excitedly discovering 20 GOTO 10, and playing Hunt the Wumpus. I eventually asked Santa for a C64 and spent some formative years learning 6510 assembly and mucking with the SID chip.

mikestaas1 hour ago

TI-99/4A was my first computer as well. I still have two of them, and they still work as well as they did in the '80s. I graduated to an Apple ][GS which I still have as well, although it needs some TLC before attempting to boot it so as not to let out the magic smoke.

ectospheno2 hours ago

I had one in grade school. Taught me the value of backups early in life. Spent all night typing in a game from a magazine. Started it without saving to tape first. It was so loud! Panicked and restarted the machine. Sadness ensued.

Replaced it with a C128-D. Didn’t get my first intel until I bought a 386 after graduating high school. Good times.

hn_acc12 hours ago

Same here - parents bought one for me in 1982, IIRC. By 1984 I had moved to Atari XL, but I'll always have a soft spot for the TI-99/4A, Extended Basic cartridge, speech synthesizer, cassette drive, etc.

My sister and I used to co-type programs from "Compute!". The times were so much simpler then..

icedchai2 hours ago

The TI99/4A was my first computer when I was 7 or 8. Unfortunately, no cassette drive. As soon as I shut it off, my basic program was gone!

raddan2 hours ago

The TI99/4A was also my first computer. I was about 5, and I didn’t really seriously try writing programs until I was about 8. Fortunately, since my father bought this for work, we had a large collection of peripherals, including the floppy disk drive. Unfortunately I learned the hard way why my father stopped using it: peripheral expansion bus devices were exquisitely sensitive to static shocks. I remember reeling in horror after watching hours of work just disappear from the disk drive. I suppose this was probably a good lesson to learn at an early age!

sunanda352 hours ago

Can you drop this yt channel name?

Brian_K_White2 hours ago

you only get 3 guesses

haunter3 hours ago

This is the main updated comment with the user guide and download

https://forums.atariage.com/topic/380883-unix99-a-unix-like-...

bink2 hours ago

Thanks. I wasn't looking forward to browsing all those pages in the hopes of finding the source. Did they never put it up on GitHub?

nonamenoslogan2 hours ago

HOLY COW. Thank you for this. I LOVE the Ti99/4a, its one of the first computers I ever used. I've got one up and running at home now currently and can't wait to try this.

raddan2 hours ago

Btw, there is a lovely third party replacement for the TI99/4a video chip that lets you output VGA. It’s a major life improvement if you are seriously using it. I Dremeled my case but you can route the ribbon cable to avoid it if you’d prefer not to modify anything. Happy to send you a link if you don’t already know about it.

nonamenoslogan1 hour ago

Thanks! I've got mine running in to a 9" Pelco PVM and it works well but yea, its tiny. I'd love to plumb in VGA and use a 15" flat panel. Would love a link.

raphar2 hours ago

It's the first computer I ever programmed, I was twelve years old then. <3

MBCook3 hours ago

Wow. The TI-99 is such a perfect fit for this too given the chip was designed for multi-user computing in a way other home computer chips weren’t.

All due to TI’s desire to use the same chip standards across all their machines big and small, IIRC.

jandrese3 hours ago

While the CPU is a better fit than the 8 bit contemporaries, the 16kb of working memory is going to be a struggle.

SoftTalker2 hours ago

It's cool because the registers are all in RAM, with a "workspace pointer" on the CPU pointing at where they are. This is slow, but a context switch is just changing that pointer.

PaulHoule1 hour ago

Well, it has 256 bytes of RAM which is basically a really big register file, and everything else goes in the 16kb of "video RAM" which you can read and write by poking at I/O registers. So it is not easy to program.

It's arguably the only 8-bit computer which has a really different architecture from the others. You could otherwise imagine pulling the SID chip off a C-64 and putting it on a TRS-80 Color Computer etc.

Sharing the main RAM with video was a weak point in computers of that time period because the video system stole many of the memory access cycles. Some recent retrocomputers that revisit that period like

https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Commander_X16

have a full-size memory bank and a video RAM memory bank which is accessed through a port which can be pretty efficient because you can auto-incremement the address register and just write 1 byte to the port to write 1 byte to video RAM and repeat.

jandrese2 hours ago

Yep, but it lacks a MMU so memory protection and paging are going to require a lot of work. I think the only reason this is feasible at all is they're running the OS out of a ROM cartridge.

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jandrese2 hours ago
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MBCook2 hours ago
MBCook2 hours ago

Yeah it really was an interesting choice on their part. Makes sense as a move for TI. Not the target market.

arnonejoe1 hour ago

For some reason I was thinking it was that $99 dollar Sinclare from the 80s which had the most unusable keyboard on earth.

hunterpayne2 hours ago

I learned to program on this exact hardware in the early 80s as a small child. It uses BASIC. It's hard drive was modem tones recorded to an analog audio tape. Its monitor was an analog TV. There was no mouse. The keyboard was built into the computer itself.

UncleOxidant2 hours ago

So assuming one wanted to buy a used one of these (I had timex sinclairs around this time) how would one display the composite video nowdays?

nonamenoslogan1 hour ago

I'm using a Pelco 9" PVM that had a former life as a security camera monitor. Suprisingly good video for composite, but alas its not very large.

jandrese2 hours ago

A USB video capture device or a converter box. There are devices sold specifically to interface these old machines with modern displays. One of the more famous ones is the RetroTINK.

glimshe3 hours ago

The joy of computing still lives in the age of AI...

b00ty4breakfast3 hours ago

made me remember knightOS

https://github.com/KnightOS/KnightOS

bananamogul3 hours ago

Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these.

Zardoz843 hours ago

WoW!

buildsjets2 hours ago

Does it run PARSEC? Nice shot captain!