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cleanexit033 minutes ago

This looks useful. I ran into a very similar problem recently and ended up building a small tool for my own use: https://github.com/cleanexit0/darwin-photos

It's macOS-only and intentionally minimal — the goal is just to download originals from iCloud Photos to disk without syncing everything into Photos.app first.

To be clear on limitations: it doesn't preserve albums or other metadata yet, and it's not meant to replace more full-featured tools. It’s mainly for the "I just want my photos off iCloud for backup" case.

Reading the comments here, it sounds like metadata preservation is a big pain point for many people — I'd be curious whether that's the first thing folks would want added, or if simple bulk export already covers most needs.

gerdemb9 hours ago

HN disclosure: I’m the author of Photos Backup Anywhere, but this thread mirrors the exact issues that pushed me to write it.

One thing that surprised me when digging into Apple Photos is how much state isn’t represented by just files-on-disk. Albums, Live Photos (paired assets), bursts, slo-mo, edits, and even “simple” things like adjusted capture dates are all tracked separately, and most export/backup tools end up flattening or partially reconstructing that on restore.

The approach I took was to treat Photos as the source of truth and verify restored items against it, rather than assuming filesystem metadata is enough. As far as I know, this is the only tool that restores albums and correctly round-trips all Photos item types while preserving location data, creation dates, and modification dates when restoring back into Photos.

Project page is here if it’s useful: https://photosbackup.app/

Happy to explain details if anyone’s curious — there are a lot of sharp edges in Photos once you go beyond “export originals”.

open_8 hours ago

My current process for offloading photos off the iPhone is to copy them in subsequent batches of '0-9999' from the 'Image Capture' app.

This is because I usually have far more than 10K photos and apple starts renaming the files after 9999 as 00001(1) for the rest. This is pretty undesirable.

Is there a way for me to export unmodified raw/jpeg/live/videos off the iphone to an external drive without a macbook with a large enough ssd, and wanting to use icloud as an intermediate bottleneck?

m4635 hours ago

I use libimobiledevice on linux

plug iphone into usb. lsusb should show it.

I backup my photos with:

  sudo ifuse -o allow_other /mnt
  rsync -a /mnt/DCIM <photos-dir>
  sudo umount /mnt
Actually, I backup all of /mnt not just DCIM, but that answer is for you. I also backup the entire phone with:

  sudo idevicebackup2 backup <backup-dir>
but in this form it either does the photos as data files, or doesn't back them up. I think it is a complete backup.
yardstick2 hours ago

Do you take into account the iPhone not holding the original images of every photo? It will offload originals and just keep thumbnails if the library is too large.

Mine is approaching 1.5TB, I’ve got no hope of keeping that all on an iPhone, and also no guarantee that any given photo is fully available locally.

cyberpunk1 hour ago

Aren't there hooks on the filesystem layer that downloads them when you access them? E.g I can browse via terminal to my iCloud Drive somehow and cat etc works on files which aren't local (after locking to download them first).

zerkten7 hours ago

Does the PhotoSync app permit that? I use it to copy files to my NAS but it has some USB-related options I never explored. I used to use Image Capture but heard of PhotoSync and have never looked back.

open_5 hours ago

That looks like it might do the trick. I feel like this should be something possible only using first party apps but I'll take it! Thanks.

giancarlostoro7 hours ago

I did it on Linux once I extracted them all as-is in the strange storage way that iOS stores them but I dont recall steps to make it mount the drive.

open_5 hours ago

That would be perfect, I might chase down this path again. It's been a while since I've tried to directly mount the iphone as a drive on linux.

giancarlostoro7 hours ago

I have taken time to slowly extract photos from old androids and its such a nightmare, and if you cant get a meaningful interface to load you have to resort to tooling that scrapes the whole drive and hope it grabs everything.

s4mbh42 hours ago

My current workflow for this is to install the 'simpleSSHD' app on the android phone and rsync the files off at full network speed.

The sshd running on the phone also supports key based auth , so it's pretty simple to automate.

toomuchtodo8 hours ago

Thanks for commenting, do you support S3 compatible targets? Backblaze B2, for example.

gerdemb7 hours ago

Not directly, no. If you can mount the S3 target as a drive, it can be used as a backup destination.

snorlax1006 hours ago

Love this app! Kudos

SSLy8 hours ago

have you looked at parachute backup? they also boast ability to backup the more mercurial types of iPhotos data.

gerdemb7 hours ago

Backing up “mercurial” Photos data is only half the problem. The tricky part is restoring it in a way Photos actually recognizes as equivalent to the original library state. Photos Backup Anywhere restore works by re-importing items while explicitly reapplying Photos-level attributes: paired assets for Live Photos, burst membership and picks, slo-mo metadata, edits, locations, adjusted capture dates, and then reconstructing albums after the items exist again in the library.

In other words, the filesystem copy isn’t treated as the source of truth. The restore verifies items against what was backed up and only then rebuilds higher-level structure like albums. That’s the piece I didn’t see addressed elsewhere, and what originally motivated me to build it.

jasonkester2 hours ago

I was there until I saw this feature:

Automatic de-duplication of photos with the same name

I recently went through a year’s worth of photos from my wife’s phone, and found three distinct “img_0001.jpg”’s just in that single year. Apple’s naming convention is so short sighted that I’d be terrified letting a piece of software try to dedupe it “by name “

j16sdiz2 hours ago

> ... Apple’s naming convention.

No, it is not. It came from DCF standard that predates smart phones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_sy...

j16sdiz2 hours ago

The 4 digits numbers are, of cause, came from the 8.3 file name length constraint. Gonna love CP/M.

nik_0_09 hours ago

This is awesome! This might be a great replacement to attempting to get the Windows app to work. Has anyone had luck with the iCloud app on windows?

Similar to some other folks in this thread I have ~2TB of iCloud data, a Macbook with far less than 2TB of space, an external hard drive somewhere with the external Photo Library that I need to plug in if I want to look at photos on the Macbook, and a Windows desktop with 10TB+ of rusty disks.

I was excited when they added the iCloud app + iCloud photos to Windows, but it never seems to catch up or finish what it is doing. It appears to be almost constantly download at 50MB/s, stressing both disk & internet, and yet navigating to the folder reveals that they are all 'available when online'.

It seems like there is not an option in Windows to actually grab everything in full quality (actually now that I look at it - its gotten to 944GB on disk / 1.91TB total, so it is getting there.)

I guess a real question - with these photos finally on a Windows desktop - is there a better photo browser than Microsoft photos that can show the HEIC and the Live Photo?

reconnecting13 hours ago

Surprisingly, there is no official way to download all (400 Gb) photos from iCloud. Here is an open-source command-line tool to download all your iCloud photos.

kccqzy12 hours ago

That’s not true. On any Mac or iPhone you can choose the iCloud Photo Library storage option to download all instead of letting the system optimize the storage. And if you turn off iCloud Photo Library, it will also try to download it all. I know this because I stopped using iCloud Photo Library and that was how I got all my photos downloaded.

possiblerobot12 hours ago

+1 to this method. After optimise storage is disabled on the Mac, wait for all photos to download. Then, open the photos library bundle and you'll see every photo there, full res. Copy them wherever you like.

Also, if you leave optimise storage disabled and continue to use Photos, every photo will be cloned in any local or cloud backups of your machine. This strategy creates additional photo redundancy separate from iCloud while still benefiting from library syncing.

mbirth11 hours ago

Or use the great osxphotos tool that works with Apple Photo’s SQLite database to let you manage all the photos in your library.

https://github.com/RhetTbull/osxphotos

Barbing10 hours ago

Demo .gif sold me

(Been meaning to make a software demo gif gallery, best way to understand many categories of apps)

lostlogin12 hours ago

This was my strategy too, but with a disgusting script which quit photos.app, rsync the photo library to a network share, then reopened photos.app so that it kept downloading from iCloud.

Not sure if the open/close is required, but I didn’t want to find out.

lencastre11 hours ago

I don’t fully trust iCloud Drive / Photos therefore I use FSViewer to download all photos from my iOS device du jour (making sure to keep the HEIF formats), this way I get the Edited (slo-mo, live, portrait, usw) and pristine versions as Jobs intended. All kidding aside, after the gray area gate of 2017-2021 I had to find a more reliable backup workflow. As of today I only use iCloud Drive / Photos to extract some RAW photos that for some reason some picky apps don’t save to the photo album (looking at you ProCam 8.0). I made several tests including hash comparisons and imagemagick diffs and I am quite pleased.

reconnecting11 hours ago

Someone gave me a new iPhone (120GB) and a new MacBook Pro and asked me to download all their photos from iCloud. Long story short, after 120GB of photos were synchronised to the iPhone, the MacBook Pro refused to copy them, and now there's no storage left on the iPhone.

Also, Photos on Mac doesn't have an option to download photos directly, so the only valid option Apple offers is to download them through the web interface (max 1,000 at a time).

There is no official way to download iCloud library that is over phone capacity. Period.

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js210 hours ago
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fizwidget11 hours ago
reconnecting11 hours ago

Okay, and if there are 300 or 500 GB of photos, how do you synchronise them with your iPhone?

hu312 hours ago

that's good to know. can I then download the photos from iPhone to a backup hard-drive or transfer to a folder in my computer?

hackpelican12 hours ago

Yes over USB 2.0 until recently.

Nextgrid12 hours ago

Thanks to Apple's exceptional software quality the app has plenty of bugs and good luck exporting a lot of files out of said library - you're in for an endless game of spinners (it does some network IO on the main thread), "not responding" and memory leaks.

But hey at least we've got Liquid (gl)ass now.

wookmaster11 hours ago

Worked well for me for 70k photos but took a long time

CharlesW12 hours ago

> Thanks to Apple's exceptional software quality the app has plenty of bugs…

I use Photos for macOS daily and I've never run into a bug with my 50K+ photos library. (To be fair, Photos doesn't do that much, and I use it more as a master catalog with Aperture's spiritual successor Nitro.)

> …and good luck exporting a lot of files out of said library…

Not sure why you would need luck to copy the "Originals" folder from the library package.

reddalo12 hours ago

Technically, there is: users of the European Union can get a full export of all data that Apple has about them, including all the stored photos. It can be requested from here: https://privacy.apple.com/

catskull12 hours ago

I was able to request a photo dump as a non-EU customer using this link.

ireadmevs12 hours ago

How does the archive they provide look like? Many zip files? I would like to retrieve them and offload to another storage service but I don’t have local storage enough to hold all of it at the same time, unpack and then reupload. I would need to do it in stages.

Tempest198111 hours ago

Yes, many ZIP files. You can select the ZIP file sizes, from 1 to 25 GB, iirc. Although a few end up larger than 25 for some reason. And took 1-2 days for Apple to "prepare".

prawn5 hours ago

You can request a chunk size and then it prepares them. I specified max chunk size and it took almost a week to give me a list of file downloads from 45-60GB each. 31 zip files to download.

lostlogin12 hours ago

While that’s a pain for you, it’s also a pain if they have multiple files for those that have enough storage.

Photo management is a bit of a nightmare as it’s an awful lot of small(ish) files.

SchemaLoad10 hours ago

Doesn't work if you have Advanced Data Protection (end to end encryption) enabled.

reconnecting10 hours ago

It sounds really weird that instead of making a separate utility, or allowing you to download iCloud Photos in the native Photos application on Mac, Apple requires you to go through a legal procedure.

I'm OK with clicking a button to download all photos to Mac, but there is no such button. Or maybe there was one previously, but it has now disappeared.

einsteinx210 hours ago

> or allowing you to download iCloud Photos in the native Photos application on Mac

Here’s the official documentation page for exporting directly using Photos for Mac without syncing everything locally: https://support.apple.com/guide/photos/download-photos-to-yo...

You can also choose to sync all photos locally with Photos for Mac by setting “Download Originals to this Mac” as described on this page which is what I do to keep a local copy: https://support.apple.com/guide/photos/photos-settings-pht51...

If your Mac doesn’t have enough space, export them to a USB hard drive or if you’re using the download originals option, first move your library location to the USB drive as also described on the link above.

reconnecting1 hour ago

You were absolutely right. Someone in the thread mentioned a status indicator, and it triggered me that I hadn't seen it at all.

It appears that on Monterey I need to pull the page down twice to show the sync status, and when I found it, the message said that photos weren't syncing due to "Performance."

reconnecting9 hours ago

Thank you.

That's exactly what I expected to work, but for some reason this approach failed for me on a new Mac with an empty Photos library. I enabled "Download Originals," but 10+ years of iCloud photos never appeared. There's no manual "fetch all from iCloud" button, no progress indicator, no way to diagnose what's wrong - the sync just silently fails. Luckily, iCloud Photos Downloader bypasses Photos entirely and pulls directly from iCloud.

nemothekid12 hours ago

I think if you are on PC. But on Mac with the Photos App

Cmd+A > File > Export Unmodified Originals

reconnecting10 hours ago

There is no straight way to download photos from iCloud to Mac.

wookmaster10 hours ago

The comment you're replying to just gave one, I did it recently for 70k photos. select all > export. That's it. It just took 30 hours.

cdrnsf12 hours ago

I'm not sure it's surprising. Apple doesn't want you to leave and making something as important as your photos difficult to move helps with that.

Tempest198111 hours ago

From 2024:

> Users of Google and Apple’s photo cloud services can now transfer images between them. It was already possible to export photos and videos from iCloud to Google Photos, but now it can also be done the other way around: from Google Photos to iCloud.

https://www.techzine.eu/news/applications/122196/google-and-... (2023 Data Transfer Initiative (DTI))

lostlogin11 hours ago

What’s missing?

The files are there on the Mac, they are there to download on the cloud (various mentions of method mentioned here).

reconnecting11 hours ago

There is NO button on Mac to download photos from iCloud. You can only do this from your phone and then synchronise them to your Mac.

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coder54310 hours ago
raw_anon_111110 hours ago

You can use the Photos app on your Mac and download originals

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mr_toad10 hours ago
wookmaster10 hours ago

Select all, Files > Export. It's simple to download iCloud Photos.

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lostlogin10 hours ago
ndegruchy11 hours ago

While not free, and not for any other platform than macOS. The program Parachute[1] in the App Store is very nice in downloading both photos from your library as well as files from the various locations.

[1]: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/parachute-backup/id6748614170?...

dawnerd10 hours ago

Another option for iOS at least is PhotoSync. It’s nice, you can pull from photos and push to basically any remote service or local server. I have it backing up to both my nas and b2.

8fingerlouie10 hours ago

It works well enough, but it's not without flaws either.

The desktop version works reliably, if you can get macOS to keep shares mounted for long enough, and mount them on request. The scheduler is also kinda wonky.

The iOS version has so far never finished an incremental backup overnight of our ~1TB individual libraries. It handles resume/suspend well, but for some reason, while it exports unmodified originals, it doesn't include AAE files, which the desktop version does.

PhotoSync does everything right, with the exception of trying to keep state of what has been exported, which makes little sense as it doesn't support restoring photos.

teamspirit11 hours ago

Anyone know if it works with ADP? I emailed them months ago but no one ever replied.

On a related question, is there a download solution that does work with ADP? I’m looking to mitigate any potential account lockout issues for family members (and, no, they will not switch out of the ecosystem).

8fingerlouie10 hours ago

It does. It uses PhotoKit to access photos, so it basically uses your Apple Photos app (iOS or Mac) to download the photos.

The only scripted solution I can think of that works with ADP is osxphotos[^1], but that also uses PhotoKit, and requires the user to be signed in.

Personally I use PhotoSync [^2] to backup our photos from phones to a NAS. It works reliably, and supports exporting unmodified originals as well as edited versions, and XMP/AAE metadata alongside it.

^1: https://github.com/RhetTbull/osxphotos

^2: https://www.photosync-app.com/home

arcanemachiner11 hours ago

Advanced Data Protection

SilverElfin11 hours ago

Is there a way to verify this all is safe to use? Like it won’t do something weird privacy wise? Any equivalent for windows?

reconnecting11 hours ago

I have the same paranoia, so I was happy to learn that someone made an open-source downloader for iCloud.

malshe11 hours ago

Thanks for the link

WhyNotHugo10 hours ago

I’ve been using usbmuxd+ifuse to copy the photo files straight from the phone. No need to wait for an upload/download to some remote server, just a direct cable from the phone to my computer. I get the original files, and can even move (instead of copy) to clear up the phone.

kimos9 hours ago

This works on any iPhone? It mounts the non-privileged DCIM folder or whatever over USB to somewhere on your filesystem? With write access?

ivanjermakov8 hours ago
mmh000012 hours ago

I run this periodically from a little shell script; I "should" automate it, but time is scarce.

  ⟩ cat ~/bin/icloud_download
  #!/bin/bash
  mkdir "$(pwd)"/{photos,cookies} 2> /dev/null
  
  if [[ -z "${ICLOUD_USERNAME}" ]]; then
      echo "need env ICLOUD_USERNAME"
      exit 1
  fi
  if [[ -z "${ICLOUD_PASSWORD}" ]]; then
      echo "need env ICLOUD_PASSWORD"
      exit 1
  fi
  
  podman container run -it --rm --name icloud \
      -v $(pwd)/photos:/data \
      -v $(pwd)/cookies:/cookies \
      -e TZ=America/Boise \
      icloudpd/icloudpd:latest \
      icloudpd --directory /data \
      --cookie-directory /cookies \
      --folder-structure {:%Y/%Y-%m-%d} \
      --username "${ICLOUD_USERNAME}" \
      --password "${ICLOUD_PASSWORD}" \
      --size original
koolba12 hours ago

> icloudpd/icloudpd:latest

Passing your raw iCloud creds into the unverified latest tag is fine until it’s not. Better to pin to a specific tag or hash.

mmh000011 hours ago

You're not wrong. I know I need to put more work into it. Just haven't had time.

I'm "protected" by the fact Podman doesn't automatically update the latest image even when using the latest tag.

I was more showing how simple icloudpd is to use.

shireboy11 hours ago

I was just thinking about this today. Apples lack of any 3rd party integration for things like this and iMessage is really annoying sometimes. In addition to a secondary backup, I’d love to automatically sync some photos from a certain album to my parents photo frame. Or if I take a nice nature shot have it sync to a Samsung frame tv. I get the benefits of the walled garden but esp w photos and messaging it seems like opening up a little would allow for some innovation

jackvalentine9 hours ago

I use PhotoSync on my phone for this - select which albums to sync where with a rule and away you go.

bicepjai10 hours ago

Thanks for this project. Our family generates about 2TB of media a year, and it’s been like that for a while, so we’re sitting at roughly 12TB total. That’s very much the long tail of personal media.

I’m not ready to pay $60/month, but I do like iCloud’s memories and other photo features. My compromise is simple:

- I use docker-icloudpd to download our iCloud Photos to local storage over time. It’s been the most practical way I’ve found to back up multiple accounts into one place, though it does require occasional re-auth every so often. - I keep only the last ~2 years of media in iCloud and delete older ones after they’re archived locally. - For browsing and searching the older archive, I use Immich, which has been a great self-hosted personal photo cloud experience with a modern app feel.

For storage, I’ve found fast local disk matters a lot once you’re digging up photos from 5+ years ago. Something like an OWC 4M2 with M.2 drives keeps the experience snappy; a typical HDD-based NAS can feel sluggish when you just want to quickly pull up an old memory.

https://github.com/boredazfcuk/docker-icloudpd

stavros10 hours ago

Does Photos have features you use that Immich doesn't? I've switched to the latter fully and love it (though I have an Android).

QuiEgo4 hours ago

Encryption at rest. If someone breaks into my house and steals my server I'd rather they not be able to get data. I can do LUKS but I really want the data to only ever be decrypted client side.

bicepjai10 hours ago

Music and AI features are still lagging in Immich, and I can understand why. Immich machine learning is not flushed out yet. If Immich has plans for creating marketplace for extensibility like plugins, in the current era of Claude code, I am sure we will end up with many options or features.

rykc8 hours ago

Wish I’d seen this 3 days ago. Needed to backup our Shared Library and did the following (about 10K photos/videos at 300gb, had enough space so full downloaded to MacBook, not optimize. 1. Repair iPhoto library, (Wait 24 hrs to re-sync to iCloud) - initially looks like it moved all photos to personal. 2. Select small chunks, by year worked well enough - selecting All gave me the spinning ball. Then export unmodified to external hdd into folders organized by year. 3. Moved entire photo library file to another external hdd. 4. Open iPhoto and select external hdd library as primary library, let it re-sync to iCloud (Wait 24 hrs). iPhoto now running off external HDD library and I’ll backup to separate external HDD monthly. Repair function and wired Ethernet connection were biggest game changers to previous attempts.

nathancahill7 hours ago

Is there any difference in moving Photos Library.photoslibrary to an external HDD and then pointing Photos.app at that?

rykc6 hours ago

Not in my experience, previously ran it setup externally with a shared library for at least a year or longer, https://support.apple.com/en-ca/108345. Typically I backup to external drive 2 ways, copy of library itself and unmodified export, only had to go through above after I needed to rebuild the laptop. OP app and or https://photosbackup.app/ , seems like they might enhance my setup, will have to take a closer look.

rgovostes12 hours ago

My concern with backing up iCloud Photos with anything but Apple Photos is that there are some proprietary formats like Live Photos and slow mo video for which exports are lossy. Also, Apple Photos stores all edits non-destructively, so 'flattening' the edits into a single file for export is also a lossy operation.

It seems like an obvious improvement for Time Machine to support full backups while using optimized storage on the primary system.

fn-mote11 hours ago

How about just turning off optimized storage and letting Time Machine do its job?

rgovostes11 hours ago

I have a 1.2T photo library. Carrying that around on my MacBook requires an $800 upgrade to the SSD.

Time Machine's job is to back up my data, it's not strictly to make a 1:1 copy of local storage. It should back up my cloud data too.

mrexroad11 hours ago

My library is large too (roughly a third larger). After years of far more complicated storage/backup solutions, I settled w/ a second Photos library on an external hdd w/ optimize storage disabled. I plug the drive in and open this library every so often to update and then duplicate the drive for an off-site copy. Day to day, I use a Photos library on my primary drive with optimize storage enabled.

I’ve found unreasonable value in being able to search through hundreds of thousands of photos from my phone, so I went all-in on Photos.app. Though one enabling factor is that my photography workflow has drastic simplified in recent years to doing very little post (except for astrophotography, which I try and keep wip out of Photos.app anyway).

nik_0_04 hours ago

I had tried this but found it a little bit weird - switching back and forth on the same device between the 'hard drive w/ full files' library and the 'primary drive optimize storage' didn't really seem easy.

IIRC Photos.app will not even open if the default library you are pointing at is not there (i.e drive was unplugged). Are you able to just open up the library file directly and it will work as expected?

I also recall when changing Photos.app back to the HDD Library it did a ~2h 'rebuild' session before it even started downloading the new photos, but maybe thats acceptable with the 'every so often' approach.

kimos9 hours ago

I’ve used this tool for years and it’s great. But it really saves just the raw data. You’d never get it back in to Apple Photos as nice as when you pulled it out. Metadata is missing. Live Photos come out as an image and a similarly named video. But I treat it as the emergency backup. If some Apple DC burns down or they ban my Apple ID for some reason, at least the photos still exist.

lostlogin12 hours ago

Could the first obvious improvement please be its speed? My god. The local Time Machine backup is slower on a 10gb network than Backblaze over the Internet. It isn’t even close.

rgovostes11 hours ago

I reinstalled my system and attempted for weeks to get Time Machine to complete a first backup. Every time I started it, the progress bar would fill up about 60% and then stall, and eventually kernel panic if the system was left idle for hours. Never happened before I reinstalled, though I have had it randomly decide the backup is corrupt and it has to start over. macOS deserves a better first-party backup feature.

lostlogin11 hours ago

> I have had it randomly decide the backup is corrupt and it has to start over.

I have hit this too many times.

varenc11 hours ago

I backup ~3-4GB a day with Time Machine to my local NAS and it takes less 10 minutes. Albeit it should take 30 seconds if it was maxing out the network speed.

lostlogin11 hours ago

I’ve done the sudo sysctl debug.lowpri_throttle_enabled=0. But it’s still slow.

10 minutes is great, and my changes wouldn’t seem as extensive as yours. I need to dig deeper.

dangus11 hours ago

Asking for anything out of Time Machine is a lost cause. It’s essentially a completed and legacy product.

I migrated to Linux + Pika Backup. For photos I use Ente Photos with their managed cloud storage plus a continuous export to my NAS.

Ente is surprisingly well integrated with iOS, you really don’t need to use Apple’s solution. It automatically backs up photos I take in the background.

SchemaLoad9 hours ago

The most annoying thing for me is if you set the date for a photo, it gets stored externally rather than modifying the photo metadata. So when you switch platform, every photo which didn't originally have a captured at date ends up reset to the current day every time you move.

For edits, I don't care too much about just baking them in since it's unlikely I'm going back to old photos and want to undo the crop.

dangus12 hours ago

In my experience migrating to another provider from iCloud, this hasn’t been a significant issue. Live Photos in particular are not really proprietary in the sense that they’re implemented in an extremely simple way that basically every photo tool understands. ~~Slow motion videos are also not proprietary, they’re just a plain video file.~~ <<< edit: I think I’m wrong about slow motion

rgovostes11 hours ago

> Slow motion videos are also not proprietary, they’re just a plain video file.

I haven't looked into the implementation details, but Photos lets you adjust the section of the video that is played back in slow motion. I thought if you share a slow-mo video, it gets re-encoded to bake this in (i.e., one second at 240fps gets exported as four seconds at 60fps).

DHPersonal11 hours ago

Parachute Backup is a tool I use: https://parachuteapps.com/parachute

jeanofthedead12 hours ago

I'm a big fan of Parachute Backup for this purpose. https://parachuteapps.com/parachute

monocularvision10 hours ago

Do you know if this supports multiple users? Can’t find mention of it in the site.

axpy90612 hours ago

This great. I want to switch to android but the only thing stopping me is eight years of photos. No more.

neilalexander11 hours ago

You can go to https://privacy.apple.com, log in with your Apple ID, select "Request to transfer a copy of your data" and then select "iCloud photos and videos to Google Photos".

wrxd11 hours ago

If your end goal is to move the photos to Google photos have a look at https://support.google.com/photos/answer/10502587?sjid=13067...

akssri3 hours ago

For those of you on Android / PC-Mac - Syncthing is an excellent tool for P2P syncing between multiple devices (it works over NAT and IPV6 too!).

jeremymaluf10 hours ago

Does anyone have any idea for why Apple makes it so difficult to keep photos downloaded?

For context, try tapping 'optimize photos' in iPhone storage settings and then figure out how to turn off the feature without using Google. Not only is the toggle nearly impossible to find, but it's also hidden from being searchable

deafpolygon10 hours ago

> For context, try tapping 'optimize photos' in iPhone storage settings

Same place it’s always been. In Settings -> App -> Photos, toggle Download and Keep Originals. Same place it is for macOS as well. It’s not that magical. Search for “photos icloud” and you’ll be led to the setting for it.

crossroadsguy9 hours ago

I used to use the Photos desktop app to move my photos (“select from the app and drop into a folder somewhere” worked best) to a separate folder a lot (and regularly) until I started using ente. Now ente not only backs up to their e2ee cloud but its desktop app keeps those media synced to the OS of my choice on my laptop.

But I can still not escape Apple’s gonorrhoeic naming and organisation.

Pro: FOSS of course; it works, with limitations (that’s mostly Apple) and glitches (that’s entirely ente)

Cons: really subpar non-native apps (desktop app is quite a dumb app as well) :( (and barely and useful additional features that lets a user do some batch/organisational changes or so)

CSDude12 hours ago

All my vertical videos in iCloud show up cropped horizontal for some reason. If I go to edit I see the whole video. I really do not want to trust any cloud provider to maintain my years of archives of family photos and videos. Glad things like this exist. I just need properly date-foldered files, without no duplciates. Is that so hard?

Angostura12 hours ago

Sounds like the contact sheet view is just using square preview thumbails?

CamperBob23 hours ago

All my vertical videos in iCloud show up cropped horizontal for some reason.

Turn your phone? /ducks

mvkel5 hours ago

Related: does anyone know of a way to delete the original videos on trimmed ones? Apparently all edits to videos are non-destructive, so the 10-minute video that I trimmed to 2 seconds still takes up 8gb.

reader92745 hours ago

Yeah, choose "Save Video as New Clip" and then delete the original.

Dachande66312 hours ago

I’ve been using this for several years now on a little unraid box to download new photos nightly. There’s a few docker containers that wrap in support for notifying when 2FA is required etc. Always makes me nervous, the access it has, but I’d rather have my photos backed up somewhere I own.

tra312 hours ago

Does anyone know if there’s a way to self host/impersonate iCloud? I’d like to back my iPhone up locally.

nntwozz12 hours ago

You can do manual backups in macOS using Finder, or iTunes on Windows.

Tepix10 hours ago

There's also a Program called "Apple devices" I believe from Apple for Windows that will let you backup your iPhone/iPad.

If you configure a password for your backup it will backup more (confidential) data than if you don't encrypt your local backup.

idorosen12 hours ago
yrcyrc12 hours ago

For pictures you can use https://immich.app/

dwayne_dibley12 hours ago

Immich is probably the best option

netsharc12 hours ago

I'm sure grandparent meant to modify it so they'd just have to click "Backup to cloud" on their iPhone and instead of the iPhone sending their files to Apple's servers, it sends them to a local backup server...

ValentineC11 hours ago

A lot of iPhone apps can backup the iOS photo library these days, including the abovementioned Immich, Google Photos, and Dropbox.

cortesoft12 hours ago

Immich can get pretty close to that experience, with the iPhone app and a local immich instance.

mfkp12 hours ago

Or ente photos: https://ente.io/

mvkel5 hours ago

Incredible. I have such a hacked-together system to get my iCloud Photos backed up to an external drive while not filling my main laptop drive. This would be even better.

porjo11 hours ago

I use this to sync my wife's photos to Immich and it works great, however the auth process is a bit of a pain (not the fault of icloudpd) and have to reauth every few months.

kimos9 hours ago

It is a pain.

I’ve wrapped it in some short scripts which notifies on auth failure and it’s an easy process to run the auth script. But there’s no way to avoid the bi-monthly inconvenience I don’t think.

whatever15 hours ago

Why did Apple invent this abomination of a system for storing photos?

We have had file systems for decades. They work well. They sync trivially.

bobbylarrybobby5 hours ago

If I'm not mistaken, the Photos app stores originals on disk and then uses a sqlite database to track metadata (and maybe edits to photos as well, given that it has the originals). Seems reasonable to me.

monksy7 hours ago

If you are already in the progress of downloading all of your photos, this is a great time to consider completely switching over to Immich.

It's great!

qaid10 hours ago

Is there an iCloud Photos uploader?

I have a script to scan files from my camera and add a compressed copy to a folder. This folder was supposed to work with the iCloud for windows (10) program, but one day it just stopped working.

ccakes12 hours ago

Seems to be looking for a new maintainer. If anyone has the bandwidth, it’s a great piece of software

ericj512 hours ago

Wow, I will definitely give this a try. I have tens of thousands of photos in iCloud and I literally can’t export them all at once. Photos app chokes and crashes and manually babysitting smaller batches is a pain. It’s pretty clear they want to make it as hard as possible

slimebot807 hours ago

iCloud Photos.app seems to not be able to show some photos

But Photometor.app (owned by Apple) can...

So that's a little annoying... I wish I had more visibility on photos not showing up in Photos.app, and what it is that stops it showing them

punnerud12 hours ago

You know you only need to do a GDPR request to Apple (dedicated page), select images and you get a download link after a few hours

thierryzoller12 hours ago

For those in the EU only ?

j16sdiz2 hours ago

You can't really file a GDPR request, but the (self-service, web based) download tools works for everybody.

punnerud12 hours ago

Believe it work for everyone? I am located in Oslo/Norway, so can’t check if it does not apply everywhere.

Only need to go to this page to do the request https://privacy.apple.com/

d1l8 hours ago

Fuck, my wife got a notice that she would have to increase her iCloud storage so last week began the process of ordering a backup of all her pictures so I could get them off iCloud and organized on some drives at home. We got 12 zips of the pictures along with csv's and some metadata, and I literally just finished iterating on the script to sort them into year-based folders and convert all the HEIC shit into JPG. It's running literally right now.

Guess I should've searched harder!

caminanteblanco12 hours ago

I mean can't you go to privacy.apple.com, ask for an archive of your data, and then they'll email you the link to a zip file in a week or two? I'm pretty sure this is what my girlfriend did when she transitioned from an iPhone to a Pixel. I think there's even a specific checkbox for photos/videos

catskull12 hours ago

Thanks! I’ve been looking at options for this and didn’t realize Apple had an official method. Just submitted a request, we’ll see how it goes.

mmh000012 hours ago

Yes... Let me ask my corporate overload and wait 2 weeks for permission to download my family photos.

1love1heart12 hours ago

There is something similar to Google Takeout for Apple Photos. Recently used it to download thousands of photos.

submeta11 hours ago

I pay around 10 euros a month to apple just so I can sync my photos from iphone to mac and ipad. That’s the only reason I need the 2 TB for icloud service. With an app like this I could download and keep copies and get rid of iCloud subscription?

pgalvin11 hours ago

This will let you download all of your photos that already exist on iCloud Photos.

Going forward, you’d want to set up some other way to sync photos you take from your phone to your other devices. I can personally recommend Synology Photos for simplicity[1], or Immich[2] for an open-source (and in my opinion, slightly better) alternative you can run on any hardware, if you’d like to set up an always-on NAS. These are “Apple Photos” or “Google Photos” equivalents that you host yourself.

Alternatively, something like Syncthing[3] is a dead-simple way to sync your photos to various other devices as and when they are online, if you’d prefer to manage your photos in an ordinary file manager.

I’d be remiss not to mention that, for any solution where you move off the cloud to a central storage location of your own, you really must make backups to keep your photos safe. The 3-2-1 rule is a standard recommendation.

[1] https://www.synology.com/en-global/dsm/feature/photos

[2] https://immich.app/

[3] https://syncthing.net/

submeta32 minutes ago

Thank you very much for the detailed reply. I have a Synology NAS, will look into that solution.

Razele11 hours ago

why not use rclone

porjo11 hours ago

Because icloudpd supports downloading photos from icloud and rclone does not (yet): https://github.com/rclone/rclone/pull/8734

rsync10 hours ago

"why not use rclone (?)"

This is the correct - and obvious - response to something like this.

Unfortunately, I believe that rclone has no support for iCloud photos at this time.

rcarmo11 hours ago

I created this over the holiday break to do mostly the same:

https://github.com/rcarmo/PhotosExport

...when you try to export files using the (restricted) APIs we get, it automatically triggers a download.

nashashmi12 hours ago

Vulnerability hijack incoming with the headline calling for another maintainer

SilverElfin11 hours ago

Thanks. I cannot get iCloud sync to work at all. It consumes CPU, asks for logins repeatedly, etc but fails to actually do its job. When I think of its bugs and all the issues with the latest iOS (bugs and performance on recent hardware), I am thinking of exiting the Apple ecosystem entirely.

jojohack11 hours ago

Became more fascinated with the history of my small hometown (Paris, Texas) TLDR: Much of it was wiped out by a 1916 fire. I spent some time recently vibe-coding this interactive map to provide some kind of historic visualization ( which enabled me to see the impact better ) https://gorch.com/parisfiremap/

quietsegfault10 hours ago

> Disable Advanced Data Protection

Nope, bzzzzt, wrong!

CamperBob22 hours ago

That's E2E encryption, right? Wouldn't you just end up with a lot of unreadable files if you didn't turn it off before running this downloader?

hannob11 hours ago

You need an extra tool to download your own photos? That's... not a basic feature?

I'm always surprised what kind of antifeatures people in Apple land are willing to accept and still use those things...

CharlesW11 hours ago

As is pointed out elsewhere in the thread, there are at three official ways to download your own photos. This complements those.

cg528011 hours ago

You absolutely can download your photos, just not via command line like this project enables.

geekamongus11 hours ago

You do not need an extra tool to download your photos. This one runs from the command line, though.