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Putting the "You" in CPU (2023)

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amelius24 days ago

Meanwhile, companies are taking the "You" out of the CPU so they can control your hardware and by indirection, you.

high_na_euv24 days ago

How?

immibis24 days ago

Secure boot etc. It's in every ARM device, including the management engines in x64 devices (which are ARM devices).

high_na_euv24 days ago

Oh, I see.

Fortunely there is still x86

LargoLasskhyfv24 days ago

> Oh, I see.

No, you don't.

Because of the SMI/ACPI/Intel Management Engine/AMD Secure Technology/UEFI, and optionally AMT-complex, where usually only parts of can be deactivated partially, but never all of it.

It's actually more bad than the above mentioned ARM-stuff, which is misinformed(maybe because of raspberry piish broadcomisms, or locked down dumbphones), because on ARM, you either can disable that stuff, or even can run your own instead.

https://www.trustedfirmware.org/projects/op-tee/

https://github.com/OP-TEE

https://docs.kernel.org/next/tee/op-tee.html

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hnuser12345624 days ago
amelius24 days ago

There is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

Anyway, it will be maybe a few years until the governments will get the idea of enforcing their own management engines into our hardware :/

lucasoshiro24 days ago

Since the first time that I saw this here in HN I've been sharing it with several people around me. This including CS students, CS professors and non-technical people who only asked "how does a computer work?". I only say "just type 'cpu.land' and read that". This is one of the best things that I've found here.

Isamu24 days ago

I think this is a good overview for most people, this is probably what they want.

For me personally I was surprised given the name that very little is about cpus and most of the material is in the operating system.

archmaster24 days ago

I guess I gotta write one about CPUs now ;)

Isamu24 days ago

No problem really, I think most people want to bootstrap quickly from the low level into the higher abstractions that they care about, few people want to stay down in the cpu itself.

CagedCoder24 days ago

> The bottom of every page is padded so readers can maintain a consistent eyeline.

God bless

itopaloglu8324 days ago

Great introduction to programming fundamentals as well.

Being able to explain something this simply usually requires a very good understanding of the entire subject.

drob51824 days ago

Great presentation.

enricotr24 days ago

Very fine site!

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