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SCiZE's Classic Warez Collection

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tdullien5 hours ago

The old warez cracking scene had an outsize impact on computer security. GRSecurity, Heartbleed vulnerability, most reverse engineering tools for security, etc. etc. etc.

There's so much history here, touching on all sorts of insanity including selling 0-day to the US government that was then used to apprehend high-level Al-Qaida personnel, random warez busts leading to people taking oversea jobs, etc. etc. etc.

If anyone still has old .NFO archives from 1990-2000, I'd be very interested in getting as many as possible.

echelon_musk3 hours ago

> If anyone still has old .NFO archives from 1990-2000

Have you checked https://srrdb.com ?

unixhero3 hours ago

.nfo archives is quite complete out there on the archive sites. Those days were crazy busy in the warez world and the nfo files are a blast to read.

wuschel3 hours ago

Interesting. Where is it possible to read up on this?

mvkel1 hour ago

Such fond memories. So many OS reinstalls after inadvertently infecting my computer from a sketchy photoshop crack. You learn to never get too attached.

Bluecobra57 minutes ago

Same, I think at one point I was reinstalling my (pirated) copy of Windows 98 SE at least once a month. In hindsight I should have pirated Norton Ghost as well.

soseng3 hours ago

It's so easy to bait me with this nostalgia. There is something mysterious and enjoyable about dialing-in or connecting to a server in the unknown. During those days, many things were not easily discoverable which added to the fun.

For a brief time, this extended to the early internet with IRC servers. I spent most of my early teenage years downloading warez, .wav music files, and trying not to be a n00b on #c while asking n00b questions

Now that I am an old man, I wonder what today's youth do that is equivalent to this fun nerdy culture? Maybe I can partake, LOL.

giancarlostoro1 hour ago

They do it on Discord now, witch their crackling voices on full display in Voice Chats. I was on an Arch Linux discord and one kid hopped in with a voice changer (was maybe 15) because he didnt want people to make fun of him for being a squeeker.

esafak2 hours ago

I don't remember a .wav era. Roughly speaking, there was .mid, .mod, .mp3

hecanjog52 minutes ago

I remember folks trading u-law or a-law compressed wavs before mp2 and mp3 and the perceptual codecs started to take over.

bombcar1 hour ago

I remember a period of time where my computer was too slow to play MP3 but it could play WAV files. So I'd process a song from MP3 or similar to WAV and play it that way.

Not sure why I bothered, really.

amatecha44 minutes ago

yeah, I sought out 96kbps mp3s because I could listen to those and still use my computer without too much lag. 128kbps was enough to really bog things down lol >_<

drob5182 hours ago

Indeed. Ah, the thrill of a 300 baud modem! :-)

sanderjd2 hours ago

I worry that the sad truth is that there isn't anything similar for "kids these days". But hopefully there is something fun and deep like this for the youths in the AI world that I'm just too old to know about.

woleium2 hours ago

is it still roblox and or minecraft?

wildredkraut6 hours ago

Good ol' times :) Cheers to all the ex. Efnet and Underworld #warezgraphics, #warezart, #3dee, #3dwarez, #3dgfx, #warez3d fellas.

empressplay2 hours ago

and #oldwarez where we were trading 80s games in the 90s

elahieh7 hours ago

1990 to 1999, that would be exactly the development timeline of Celerity BBS.

Just looking at the revision history of Celerity 2.04 on Discmaster, wow, that went forever!

https://discmaster.textfiles.com/view/43430/BBS_Software/DOS...

belZaah7 hours ago

University of Tartu sysadmins used to point warez.ut.ee to 127.0.0.1 back in 1993 just to confuse warez-interested but ill-educated youth like myself.

xtiansimon5 hours ago

That university of Tartu, https://ut.ee/en ? Which comes to mind because of the Department of Semiotics, founded by Juri Lotman.

nxobject3 hours ago

From an archival perspective... it's sad to be able to search the filelists for software that's probably lost to history. For example, I've been trying to track down a (working) copy of SAS for DOS since forever. Even software from fly-by-night houses can tell us so much.

achairapart2 hours ago

I think all the listed software is available for download in the website still-active BBS: scenelist.org:23 (I only tried the web interface briefly).

thijson3 hours ago

I remember various people from that time pronouncing warez in two distinct ways.

wares ware-ez

I'm not sure which is the correct way.

oldandboring3 hours ago

My interpretation was/is that they're both right. The word originated as 'wares with a Z' but once it was spelled that way it became natural to pronounce it 'ware-ez' but nobody thought you were unintentionally mispronouncing it. The in-joke continued on certain boards as 'warez' became 'Juárez'...

bombcar1 hour ago

Ciudad Warez was a common joke for us, though I do suspect one person actually pronounced it that way.

Warez as "softwares" seems reasonable to me, but language moves.

squigz2 hours ago

Okay I'm a little embarrassed to admit I might have been pronouncing it that last way for the past 20 years...

stackghost2 hours ago

It absolutely is pronounced "wares" as in "software" but 13 year old me didn't know that so I and everyone I knew pronounced it "war-ezz", as in "warfare".

Oh, the times before voip

solumunus2 hours ago

Ware-ez is absolutely insane.

dleslie2 hours ago

Wares, except the s sounds like a z.

achairapart7 hours ago

The NFO Search section is pure gold. I'm glad someone preserved all this.

vizzah3 hours ago

yeah.. nice to look up yourself on many of those filez =)

no_time7 hours ago

I hope one day someone will make a movie about the warez scene. The only piece of media we have as far as I'm aware is The Scene (2004–2006) which I wholeheartedly recommend to anyone with a love for moving bytes around illegally.

dovik5 hours ago

Not about warez but demoscene, the french movie "DEMO" is currently in pre-production. Demoscene from Atari ST and Amiga.

https://fr.ulule.com/demo-par-alex-pilot/

JasonADrury4 hours ago

Also not the warez scene, but the Swedish public broadcaster made a series about the pirate bay recently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay_(TV_series)

It's watchable, but not great. It unfortunately doesn't cover many of the most interesting details, such as what happened with TPB after the operators were arrested.

phrotoma3 hours ago
pelagicAustral6 hours ago

BBS: The Documentary touches on _some_ Warez scene topics and legendary characters of the era.

http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/

djkoolaide6 hours ago

Highly recommend downloading the .isos and playing them in mpv with deinterlacing. Lot of great native 60i footage in this doc.

gxd6 hours ago

Not a movie per se, but one of the protagonists in my game is a veteran from the warez scene. He mentions BlueBeep, BBSs and Demoscene in the game :)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3040110/Outsider/

Maro2 hours ago

#zeraw on DALnet in the 90s, those were the days..

jsonc3 hours ago

man, those were the days! I was a coder for an amiga crew in australia, we had a heap of bbs's going and we'd phreak calls to scene BBS's in europe, usa & eastern aus. Amazing what mischief we'd get up to with a usrobotics hst modem ha :D

gtsnexp5 hours ago

Those really were the good old days. My BBS ran out of my parents’ attic, with two phone lines and Renegade on the server (on a beefed-up PS/1). It was pure magic.

luke_skyywalker6 hours ago

hihi,

detailed list, of stuff i did, from 1992 to 1998 awesome, loveit.

found my name in 79 pages of nfo files

self_awareness6 hours ago

i remember some guy luke_skyw, or similar. Did you write any tutorials back then?

pcdoodle6 hours ago

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