HSBC blocks its app due to F-Droid-installed Bitwarden

That's Google's SafeNet. HSBC picked a level that causes this. Google manages the blacklist of apps.

We are rapidly losing our freedoms to the will of these companies. If they decide they don't want to they can even if the law doesn't forbid it.

People in Switzerland and the EU are being de-banked by local banks because of US pressure allowing them to force any bank that wants to use USD. The US has started to sanction people for free speech resulting in de-banking.

Swiss law requires one bank (Postfinance) to offer banking irregardless but if you are sanctioned you can't use the wire system, no other currencies, no credit cards and you cant use Twint either so it's in effect useless.

I thought Google removed the API that let you see other apps on the device. Maybe there's another API I'm not aware of though

Plenty of UK banks that don't require this, and whose apps will also work on a rooted device. Monzo will display a warning that sets out the fact there's an increased risk, and then lets you be an adult and choose to continue to use the app if that's what you want to do.

The best part is that the Current Account Switching Service makes it very easy to make the jump from a legacy bank like HSBC.

My wife has tried to use a flip phone just for nostalgia's sake and she has a newer phone that supports android 14 (technically android go 14) and thus should work with most basic apps. However, one of her banking apps refuses to work claiming an app is screensharing (the POSB bank app thankfully identifies it as the "android system" app.) likely what is occuring I think is the second screen is drawn using some sort of thing that is reported as screen sharing, that POSB thinks could be malware.

Of course, asking POSB for help has lead to nothing being done. By and large the biggest threat to people finance wise in singapore isn't malware but are scams (what is called "pig butchering" in America is rampant here) whilst malware is always a threat sometimes I feel like just refusing to function is problem due to overzealous viligiance to a low probability threat.

It will not work either if you have developer mode enabled.

These things HSBC app does, I think it's overreaching

It's worth trying to work around this by creating a work profile to isolate the apps.

Ditch apps on your phone and pick banking that gives good, robust online banking. I was cut off by Starling for something similar and had to choose between a factory reset of my phone and my bank. I explained that my phone had free software on it, some of which I'd written, and it made no difference.

Apps are a tool of control and surveillance and it is time we stopped tying ourselves to them. Dumb phones or degoogled operating systems (like e/OS/) are probably the answer here.

I use a separate phone for non-F-droid apps.

We can't let banking apps invade our property.. things like banking apps need so much control in order to be secure that they need to exist on dedicated devices.

probably because bitwarden has a permission to overlay other apps and HSBC thinks it's malware stealing your access to your bank