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Learning Feynman's Trick for Integrals

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biophysboy56 minutes ago

> So I got a great reputation for doing integrals, only because my box of tools was different from everybody else's

This is the most important lesson I learned in grad school. Methods are so important. I really think it is the core of what we call "critical thinking" - knowing how facts are made.

tacitusarc2 hours ago

I just finished Mathematica by David Bessis and I wish this information was presented in the way he talks about math: using words and imagery to explain what is happening, and only using the equations to prove the words are true.

I just haven’t had to use integral calculus in so many years, I don’t recall what the symbols mean and I certainly don’t care about them. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t find the problem domain interesting, if it was expressed as such. Instead, though, I get a strong dose of mathematical formalism disconnected from anything I can meaningfully reason about. Too bad.

chrisweekly2 hours ago

That's one of the things I like best about https://betterexplained.com -- it focuses on ways to gain intuition about a given math concept, using visuals and metaphors as appropriate. If only math education were always presented like that....

lordnacho2 hours ago

My issue with both this and u-substitution is that you don't know what expression to use. There are a LOT of expressions that plausibly simplify the integral. But you have to do a bunch of algebra for each one (and not screw it up!), without really knowing whether it actually helps.

OTOH, if I'm given the expression, it's just mechanical and unrewarding.

zeroonetwothree1 hour ago

That’s how most of math works past high school. It requires a lot of practice and intuition.

lordnacho1 hour ago

I don't know about this particular case though, I get the feeling there's a system to it that can be exploited by eg Wolfram. It's just that you're in the dark for a long time before you find the switch.

zeroonetwothree1 hour ago

It’s interesting he mentions he doesn’t like contour integration since many integrals can be done either way.

Feynman’s trick is equivalent to extending it into a double integral and then switching the order of integration.

measurablefunc52 minutes ago

Don't forget to check for the necessary measurability & integrability of the sections (f(a, y), f(x, b)) before switching the order: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fubini%27s_theorem?useskin=vec....

impossiblefork3 hours ago

It starts off with a pretty major error.

I'(t)=\int_0^1 \partial/(\partial t)((x^t - 1)/(ln x))dx = \int_0^1 x^t dx=1/(t+1), when it is actually equal to \int_0^1 x^{t-1}/ln(x)dx.

These two are definitely not always equal to each other.

owalt2 hours ago

No, it is correct. The integral is with respect to x, and the ordinary/partial derivatives are with respect to t. Written out fully, the derivative computation is

d/dt (x^t - 1)/ln(x) = d/dt [exp(ln(x)t) - 1]/ln(x) = ln(x)exp(ln(x)t)/ln(x) = exp(ln(x)t) = x^t.

Edit: d/dt exp(ln(x)t) = ln(x)exp(ln(x)t) by the chain rule, while d/dt (1/ln(x)) = 0 since the expression is constant with respect to t.

There are convergence considerations that were not discussed in the blog post, but the computations seem to be correct.

impossiblefork1 hour ago

Ah, yes. I don't understand how I differentiate with respect to x instead of t, but...